I love this photo – the first I have viewed on Instagram when a student sent the link to me, and its caption even more so for which I thank Jasvir Kaur who has also posted it.
Well, I am the ‘world’ and I await ‘domination’ 😀
Are they going nuclear or something?!!
The two actors in the photo, Professor Singhs Gurnam and Surinder, love me much and they will love me even more so…
Bhai Bullshit Singh said:
You are not the be all and end all
@ mr bullshit Sin- I think you need to grow up and understand humor…. By the way I didn’t feel like putting Singh with ur first name . Stay merry!!
Shut the front door said:
Petty children in middle school post comments like this onto their facebook wall. kudos.
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Deepa Singh said:
Baldeep you need to calm the fuck down, you can’t sing for shit, all your good for is doing kathak on stage. Saleya cheta bhull gaya when you got slapped up by shiromani ragi bhai sahib bhai Balbir singh Ji? Anyway, who the fuck gave a hankari moorakh like you the khitaab of bhai? Saala aapni pomp maari jaanda, you go on about keeping traditions alive and that your the only one, what happened to your traditions when you married that white woman? And where the fuck were your traditions when your names your mixed raced kids after a video game (mario & luigi lmao!!!)
Harkamal (Putt Jattan Da Shakeen) said:
Deepa Singh, first of all do you have the courage to reveal your true identity and tell us all where your from? It’s easy to talk so disrespectfully from behind a computer.
Deepa Singh Ji,
It is very unfortunate to read not your content but the language – very un-Sikhly and lowly – reveals the sick mentality you do seem to possess.
A comment on my family is a first and I will not respond.
I am interested though in this ‘slap by Bhai Balbir Singh’ that you refer in your post – would you mind substantiating this CLAIM.
It also seems that you are hiding your identity which is indeed unfair for mine isn’t hidden.
I await ‘world’ dialogue & communication
Upma Mahan said:
Kudos, Deepa Singh!
Talk about hitting him where it hurts with the TRUTH! Sachay upar sacha nao!!
He who points the finger/throws the stone never stops to think of the karma he creates for himself, especially when he himself is the coward and the fraud!
I believe YOU to be the actor Mr Baldeep, there are numerous photos of you ‘posing’ with rabab, dilruba and even a turkey resembling taoos, yet we await to actually hear or see you play these instruments. The two world renowned kirtanea and scholars you refer to as actors, ACTUALLY play the instruments that you see them with in their photographs, there are many videos on youtube to prove this.
So Mr Baldeep now who is the fraud?
Theres a saying ‘in our arrogance/ignorance we are quick to point a finger at another, and we forget how many fingers point toward us’……………
Stop lying to yourself and the world and stop your false claims, you are the actor and no other.
I like your email ID – fake is it – email@example.com and the pseudo name Upma Mahan. Who are you actually Huzur..?
Moreover, there has been no hit by Deepa Singh, your Fake colleague.
Amrit Pal Singh said:
The Karma that Baldeep Singh is creating for himself is going to stare him for a long time to come.
Even if Dr. Gurnam Singh and Surinder Singh are all fraud or they are too inferior musically in comparison. Who is going to be the judge ? Is Baldeep Singh going to be the final authority to pass the judgment regarding the musical competence of other singers ? Music is judged by the people who hear it.
What is the competence of Baldeep Singh as a singer ? Just talking big and flashing ones photographs with instruments is no singing. Has he ever put up audios or videos of himself proving his so called greatness and out of the world knowledge and superiority in Gurbani singing ? A singer does not talk to prove his singing. He sings to show his true colors!
Whatever is available of his singing depicts him to be a below average musician. But he continues to present himself as a great maestro, a great teacher of music, a great preserver of tradition. Surely the tradition of sangeet was not that bad ! He talks of tradition as if he has traveled back and lived in the time of Gurus. He seems to be having some time machine to visit the past and find out and hear the great maestros singing !
Why doesn’t Baldeep present his versions of Gurmat Sangeet here on this blog of his? He is supposed to be having a world class recording studio of his own.
The problem with Baldeep seems to be that he thinks that Gurbani singing starts with him and ends with his permission. He just needs to look around.
At least the writer is genuine (I hope) for the earlier ones confused me so much that I could not identify which one may be by Gurnam or by Surinder.
Nice addition of the word ‘Karma’. That is actually a part of my initial question – what would the two, those you so vehemently defend, do with the kind of fictional mess they have accumulated?
Amrit Pal Singh Ji, certainly you are not a judge..!
Moreover, this misconstrued argument over a post of mine where their accumulations were certainly not being discussed. The caption certainly made me laugh so I posted it.
Misconstrued also because I have never passed judgements about them singing atleast on this post. I told Surinder years ago in France what I thought of his claims as a singer and a teacher. I do not have to quote myself here to you.
Instruments? Sure, get your people at a place and we call in a class jury and then we will see. Claim by claim – hand-carved scoop by scoop – a musical stroke by stroke. Perhaps then only musical innocents such as your kind self may realize.
Para 3/4 of yours shows that you are certainly not aware of how musics are evolved and how processes are then placed in order to sustain such knowledges and/or heritage assets. If you really want to find out where each one stands, take out equal amount time and spend it with the people you want to explore, including me. Until then you must reserve your comments for they may be at least a trifle bit away from that which is real. It isn’t always good to accumulate poor Karma, as you yourself suggest.
Deepa Singh said:
Funny how you talk about traditions and how you keep it real but your just another fraud… At least when surinder singh advocates something he sticks to it unlike you! Surinder singh is hell bent on a concept of nirdharit kirtan something which I remember you endorsed aswell if I could quote you “if Maharaj said Aasa Mahala panjva he meant Aasa Mahalla panjava not tuhadi marji mahalla panjava” yet you hav videos of yourself singing a Shabad of Raag Aasa in bageshri – a startlingly arrogant contradiction, you then had the balls to go onto say and i summise the jist of what you said that when a person who has mastered raag vidiya like me does kirtan he is allowed to bend the rules!
Also please tell me what traditional reet were you singing in Barcelona at the Barcelona interfaith event where you mish mashed various shabads including “mo ko taar lai rama and he Gobind he gopal”?
If you haven’t contradicted your values system of adhering to tradition why do you fear justifying the names of your children?
For a start Deepa Singh Ji, who are you?
You will still need to reveal your true identity but nevertheless, here is my response to Surinder of August 14, 2010 from the debate on his misappropriation of the term Naad-Yoga and more:
“In regards to the singing of the Shabads, like the one you have linked, I also sing these in the original ragas.
The maestros of this subject composed compositions in non-Gurbani ragas for Gurbani Kirtan enthusiasts so that they might learn as many ragas as needed. There were a few technical reasons. Your questioning the very existence of singing in non-prescribed ragas reveals your ignorance about those reasons. Education is not merely the learning of compositions. It is also receiving many more precious and indispensable components of Kirtanic tradition. One important reason is that unless you learn how to sing parallel ragas, you cannot sing the main raga correctly. Now instead of teaching non-Gurbani texts, the great Kirtani maestros composed Gurbani in these non-Gurbani ragas, which were very important to learn and sing the ragas used by the Gurus.
If you do not learn Bageswari, you will not be able to sing other ragas in Gurbani, which use its blend. If, for example, you do not learn hindol, poorbi, kafi, tilak and narayani how can you sing ragas where their flavour, or rang, is used or, ragas very similar to them? Likewise, even raga asa cannot be sung properly unless you know five other ragas – where only one of these other five is in Gurbani.
In the Gurbani Kirtan pedagogy, the non-Gurbani ragas are tools that allow us to sing the main ragas correctly. People who have not received Gurbani Kirtan under this pedagogy usually have been seen questioning in this manner.
Regarding forms of ragas like devgandhari – if you had asked my granduncle – he would have taught them to you. If you want to learn about it, you are welcome and I will show you the original forms. We, the students of Gurbani Kirtan used to coax teachers like my granduncles, Maharaj Bir Singh Namdhari, Tarangar Sahib into rummaging their memories asking them if they remembered any other raga form variant. I already told this to you in France.”
Pt Bhimsen Joshi said:
Maha Ustad Sangeet Sagar Swarapati Saraswati Avtar Pujya Sri Guru Baldeep Singh, do you also think that Prof Kartar Singh has also written fictitious and blasphemous texts on Gurmat Sangeet that are not in line with your word your vani that is canon?
Are you another fake ID for Pandit Bhimsen Joshi Ji cannot be writing from the heavens!
Hope you will have the courage to reveal your actual identity.
Your question is laced with values which are unfortunate nevertheless, I am yet to fully analyze Professor Kartar Singh’s works. Once my study has reached a point that I can deduce the actual source of his works, I will comment. You can of course expect that I will call a spade a spade, a thorn a thorn and a flower a flower. My personal relationship, which is full of respect and admiration for him, with him notwithstanding.
Jasvir Kaur said:
Dear Bhai Baldeep
I am deeply saddened by your disrespect and immaturity in these posts, if you are a teacher of such great calibre then is your only way to claim that greatness through slandering others?
I did write you a personal email asking why you find it necessary to exchange such negative and inappropriate dialogue, to be honest with you i was a little hopeful that you may change your approach to these posts, but sadly i was wrong.
In my opinion a teacher who claims their own greatness through tearing down other teachers cannot be that highly acclaimed.
One thing i would like to clarify for your benefit and for the benefit of those who read these posts, i can assure you with great certainty that neither Professor Surinder Singh nor Dr Gurnam Singh would waste their time posting on your blog. You have made such an allegation which i am clarifying for you, therefore all of the posts i see here come from your fans, followers and those who observe you.
I urge you once more, when you have a comment to make about another individual, it would be more appropriate for you to exchange direct communication with them as apposed to creating slander behind their back, as to some it may appear a little cowardly.
I mean no disrespect to any individual through my post, i am simply requesting for dialogue to be exchanged in a more mature and appropriate manner and FB, blogs and website are not the correct means.
Dear Jasvir Kaur,
Your respected teacher is yet to respond to my letter of September 24, 2010. Have you (both) so conveniently forgotten?
Your inferences about my stance are totally misplaced. This is not about “tearing down other teachers” rather about disallowing fake histories from becoming actual history. My silence will tantamount to my legitimizing all the crap that is being sold in the name of Gurbani Kirtan. My advice to you all has been all along – “learn the tradition first and speak about it. You cannot learn traditions from the books, which are mere diaries of the learned ones”. All inferences until then are bound to be inaccurate.
Here is my last letter (2012) to your teacher copied for your and your respected teacher’s reminder – hopefully he will show me the ‘proofs’ or apologize publicly for lying about my family history:
Thanks for the personal message you sent to me the other day and for the birthday wishes.
Please do excuse me for writing my response on the thread here, contrary to your request to speak privately.
You must understand that the issues are different. I have no interest in your institution, in your students and their numbers that you often quote, or in the instruments you buy and sell. So many people around the world do these things – one more is not a problem. The problem is with selling/marketing things in the name of Gurbani Kirtan tradition and also in the name of Nada Yoga. The problem is not in your innovations and creations; the problem is that you label your work as ‘tradition’ and ‘ancient wisdom’.
There are other issues you have shockingly raised as regards my familial lineage and my family history. You have actually been both abusive as well as slanderous and defamatory in your remarks (I do not wish to repeat them here) you have made on this very public platform to unambiguously malign my humble work and me.
At the time you made these remarks you never once thought of restraining yourself and went public without batting an eyelid. You did not write any of this in private then. You went about claiming to be in possession of some damning evidence that clinchingly establishes my family’s complicity in a sinister game to bring Gurbani Kirtan into disrepute.
As a researcher, I want to see that proof and very soon!
To save face and to avoid public notoriety you need to provide evidence for your claims lest those taken in by such claims, or indeed aspersions, take your silence for cowardice. Such silence would furthermore cast grave doubts on your stature and credibility as a professor, as well as your institution and all your projects therein, for it would mark you as duplicitous and more than a little rash.
September 24, 2010 at 11:50pm”
Deepa Singh said:
For someone who is allegedly so learned you are incredibly dumb! My name is Deepa Singh son of Paal Singh vaasi jallandhar city currently residing in California, do you want me to give you my blood group aswell?
You accuse surinder singh and Gurnam singh of making up ficticious history and theories yet you are doing the same thing on here! Tell me in which universe is Bageshri a parallel raag to Raag Aasa? When your corned on an argument you like a slithery snake of a coward make up bullshit claims and play the “Grand masters did it” card – I think you’ve been watching too many kung foo movies!
In Barcelona you did some neo AKJ style kirtan which someone of your stature should chulu bhar paani vich dob marre after doing…
Stop bringing down and maligning the names of Mahan Kirtanis to justify your bulshit claims… Also change your kids names, as it doesn’t do sobha to your grand uncles now does it?
It all makes sense now, you have never released any album showing the world your MAHA gyan on Raag Vidya and refuting the alleged ficticious raags showcased by Surinder Singh and Gurnam Singh through action (your stage kathak/singing) and not empty words (your bakwaas). You have never released any books which academically refute the claims of others, teri documentary ne patta ni kinne saal laare laaye loka nu, ke it’s nearly finished its nearly finished.
Instead of duro like a khusra clapping your hands in disgust at Surinder Singh and Gurnam Singh why don’t you actually do something constructive? If Surinder Singh has written a ficticious definition of Naad Yoga, why don’t you give the correct deffinition backed up by your proofs and let the sangat decide, I’m pretty sure there are academics out there in the Sikh world who will judge both yours and Surinder singhs work on a purely academic basis even if they aren’t from the specialist field of music, it would be like a peer review. By that it requires you to write a factual paper on the subject and not just fill it with sly digs and slurs at your opponents. I am surprised that you haven’t submitted a research paper to a journal of musicology since you are the self proclaimed mega scholar on Gurmat Sangeet, but then again you could be a pussy and fear your paper being rejected because real schollars saw past your bulshit (namedly your extensive vocabulary and riddle writing style which you use to mask your baseless arguments) and because you are a dumbass.
I know I have cussed you a lot but je tu bande da puth a then give a jawaab to the points I have raised and not the jabs I’ve made at you (which you totally deserve and mere kolo reha ni gaya)
I fear just like the arrogant and hankari Asura Guru Shukracharya Parmesar will poke out your eye aswell!
Deepa Singh Ji,
You do get worked up quite much – from abuses to “poking out my eye”.
You have all of your facts wrong – read my writings carefully and with some intelligence.
You may also want to research a little more than you seem to have done thus far regarding my writings.
I have never said Asa has any semblance with Bageshwari.
My granduncles loved the names of my children – you please keep off this aspect. You are being very uncultured, ill-mannered and un-Sikh-like in speaking about my family like this. Quite a name you bring to the Sikh tradition you claim to ‘belong’ to.
I have already discussed ‘Surinder Yoga’ in detail in 2010.
Were you actually present in Barcelona? I had sung the shabad in Raga Malkauns that night – it was a beautiful night. My granduncles have sung it in Raga Malkauns and so has their legendary father, Bhai Sahib Bhai Jwala Singh. There are many traditions, Raga based, Jottian da Kirtan, repertoire of the Sadhus and saints – I am fortunate to have received many many compositions from each of these traditions.
Jasvir Kaur said:
To be honest i am past wasting my time writing to you again as your arrogance is far beyond my comprehension, in the field of arrogance you are a great master, so hats off to you. This will be my final post to you.
Your attempts to manipulate the truth and paste lies astound me, Professor Surinder Singh has shown me the personal message he so kindly sent to you on your birthday via Facebook on 15 September 2010 at 10.51am to which you gave him no reply. He then also sent you a message on 26 Dec 2012 at 5.08am paying his condolences to you upon hearing the news of your mother passing.
In my opinion it is and was very kind and respectful of Professor Surinder to send you such messages, i am sure you have never done the same in return and most probably you would not. I think this clearly defines the intent and nature of a person.
You did not reply to his message directly where he could access it, but you chose to past a reply to a personal message on a public page, is this your level of maturity?
What were you afraid of by not replying directly to him?
Neither Profesor Surinder Singh nor any other Kirtaneea, Ragi, Sikh Musician or academic needs your approval or certification, nor would they approach you for such.
The claims you make about upholding tradition are very thin and quite flawed, most if not all of the SIkh Music Scholars and practitioners that i have spoken with and met have all validated the same. None in India support your claims on tradition neither do they support your false claims and lies. They all see you to be the fraud and the one who is writing his own version of history according to his own interpretation.
When you mature a little, i will happily arrange a meeting for you with my teacher to view the evidences to validate the statements made to you in 2010, but only once you mature in your approach.
Those who believe Bhai Baldeep to be an authority in this field, you should place flowers in his feet and for those who do not, observe with caution as the ones who make so much noise have little inside them.
Judge away and condemn as much as you like, but know that no sound-minded individual would waste their time posting evidences to your blog to prove a point to you. Do not expect any posts to provide the evidence that you have demanded. I made my offer to you to resolve matters in a mature and adult manner, if you chose to decline then do not call any other a coward except yourself.
May Guru guide you
Dear Jasvir Kaur,
You are quite a ‘fascinating’ a person – a specimen of a particular kind. Surinder has publicly lied about me so much and claims in that letter of his to me, to be a big fan of mine. Hypocrisy it is called madam..! Let me post it for you and your kind readers now that you mention it:
“September 15, 2010 at 3:21pm
first of all belated happy birthday.
You have no idea Singh that there is no issues in my head about you. you are the person i really really really think is a jewell of panth, But rest i would like to talk to you in person to clear up all the misunderstandings. I really do not have time to discuss all these matters on fasebook.
I have no interest in what others may say DR G ets. but you have done a lot and let me show you in time that what real appreciation for your work i have.
On fasebook its not a good idea to discuss and i request you to drop this hate in your heart cus i am not your enemy.”
The letter he wrote at the passing of my dear mother was duly responded to. Please check your facts before attempting to throw brickbats. In any case, you must understand this Jasvir Kaur, that Surinder’s note of sympathy is hollow for he has attacked my family. An attack on me is acceptable but not on my family.
The accusations by him were publicly made and it is really unfortunate that he has not furnished any proof to substantiate his wild claims on the very platform he originally used. The fact is there aren’t any documents to furnish or is he taking time to get fake one’s made. It was a stupid lie arrogantly made to merely frighten me away – his bluff duly called.
My family has served the house of Guru Nanak since the first Guru’s own very times. My ancestors have been noted custodians ever since. We have a memory as well as responsibilities. Only in the grace of the Satgur Purkh we dwell.
Jasvir Kaur mentioned my ‘debate’ with Surinder in 2010, which had gone on well until Surinder had attacked my family and spoken firstly of my ‘non-relation’ with Bhai Avtar Singh and Bhai Gurcharan Singh. That debate was sparked inadvertently with me replying to a query by one of my students on a photo post by Surinder. Surinder had made a ‘false’ claim as the posture (mudra) in the concerned photo as being a Nada Yoga mudra. People in the musical field know of the contribution of Ustad Rahim Fahimuddin Khan of Dagurvani Dhrupad towards Nada Yoga and my over 20 years long association with him (as a son-like) is also well known. The seven mudra-s of the seven notes as taught by Professor Surinder Singh does not figure (in whatever is there of Nada Yoga). To debate on the very concept of Nada Yoga may be saved for another day.
That debate had brought out many technical insights and is being quoted in research papers and doctoral studies.
Since then, the debate on the subject has gone on but it should be in the spirit of debate. If a debate is needed, we are willing to debate. The field has developed since and we are inviting comments but please no deviations; no abuse or nonsensical comments are allowed on the blog for it (the space) is not there to accommodate abuse.
The previous debates were very decisive as well.
Surinder publicly made many wild claims and has failed to substantiate those in spite of many reminders and requests. Jasvir’s claim that neither Surinder Singh nor Dr. Gurnam Singh will have time to ‘waste’ in trying to submit the necessary proof is hilarious and so is her claim about private email/messages versus public/social platforms. She must understand, Surinder made claims on these platforms – if at all he had an iota of integrity and honesty, he must furnish proof or make an unconditional public apology or else, Surinder’s face and that of others who continue to lie about various aspects of the field continues to be smeared in shame.
Dr. Manbir Singh said:
The problem arises because we too often tend to become more of a ‘preacher’ than a ‘learner’ ourselves. After mastering few facts in any field humans have strong urge to ‘teach’ others. All the problem arises after this. Today I may find some fact right, tomorrow I may myself not want to stick to that same principle which I had preached earlier. This is a common problem with practically most of the ‘preachers’. And Bhai Baldeep has no exclusive rights to this anomaly !
The Best option is: Not to be a ‘forceful preacher’. We All are Right & We All may be Wrong !!
After all to err is Human….
Gurjant Singh from Anandpur Sahib said:
Tu hunda koun a prof Kartar singh Ji te ungali chakkan waala? Tere warge hankari kute bathere roada te firde fazool bhaunkde, par Prof Sahib oh sher han jinna ne Sri Darbar Sahib Vich tanti saaj bapas sthapit kithe, tu odho ghar baitha hath rassa karri Janda si…
Dr. Manbir Singh said:
Gurjant Singh ji, you should have directed this reply to Bhai Baldeep Singh and not me. I have not said any thing against Prof. Kartar Singh ji. He is one of the Top Musicians among the Sikhs.
If Baldeep Singh is pointing fingers at the work done by Professor Sahib, it is his problem.
Moreover, who has raised any finger at Professor Kartar Singh. Your foul language, Gurjant Singh, does not bring any credit to the people you profess to ‘defend’.
Deepa Singh said:
You still haven’t answered me regarding your academic credabilty in publishing your research and works… Where the hell are your works? Or are you just full of shit… Just to be clear on one thing, I’ve seen for a long time how you like a kanjari mehne maar Surinder singh, this is the first time I’ve seen you try and throw chikkar on Dr Gurnam Singh and it really pissed me off, your hankar knows no bounds, Veer Gurjant Singh out it quite rightly who the fuck are you to judge Prof Kartar Singh work, and call it a spade, your face is a black spade you kaale muh wala – even Bhai Sahib Bhai Balbir Singh Ji doesn’t like you, I remember when I went to visit him in 2008 unha ne teinu ehnia gaala kadiya it was unbelievable it didn’t know of your arrogant and hankari ways back then and I just mentioned a video of you and Bhai Saab back in the day, and Bhai Saab shouted at me saying dont say that Akirtghans name in my presence! I was shocked, but today in not surprised as they say kute di poosh bingi di bingi hi rehni!
Well, for a start I hope you have a big tank. Secondly, are your comments sanctioned by Dr. Gurnam Singh?
You haven’t yet substantiated your ‘slap’ claim.
Those years, our relationship had indeed soured and no wonder he spoke as you claim that he did. Things aren’t the same. Moreover, my stand on things hasn’t changed only things are a little clearer to a few people.
Blinded people do spew venom, throw out a lot of filth.
Deepa Singh said:
I have no affiliation with Dr Gurnam Singh or Surinder Singh, what I cannot bear is arrogant fools like you who act childishly for Gods sake man have some shame your dhara is greying yet you bicker and bitch like a school girl.
You still havent substantiated your claim to being a scholar and researcher, and you continually shy away from my challenge to you publishing your academic findings to an academic body such as a journal where your work may be subjected to scrutiny and verification by your peers.
Baldeep Singh, take this mega behzti of yours that has occured on this website of yours as a humbling experience long due. Your humbling experience should have been your spat with Bhai Sahib Bhai Balbir Singh Ji Shiromani Ragi, but your arrogance got in the way and as usual you thought you we an authority on Gurmat Sangeet and quite rightly he dealt your bitch ass on a plate.
No one in the world of Gurmat Sangeet takes you seriously, and they wont take you seriously untill you actually do something for the world of Gurmat Sangeet, the tarkhangiri of making a slightly modified taus and selling it for tens of thousands of dollars to your white 3HO hippy following is not a contribution to Gurmat Sangeet. instead of criticising the work of others publish your own, that would be the honourable thing to do.
Deepa Singh or whatever your name is,
You have only humbled yourself and the ones you defend with your language and ignorance of the subject.
I am mostly anchored in Amritsar these days and Bhai Sahib Bhai Balbir Singh also does so – why don’t we meet and find out the veracity of your generous claims? Bring in Gurnam and Surinder as well, and others you refer to.
Moreover Deepa Singh, can you show me one book of the ones you defend which is written with academic integrity, semantic precision, without plagiarizing anyone’s work and sans fiction writing..?
You people have only taken an illegitimate advantage of my silence over the last years. Firstly, writing false stories about the whole tradition of Gurbani Kirtan, without studying the tradition and then defending those false claims by sacrificing the dignity of the most important factors in the tradition. You are a bunch of strange characters indeed.
Only academic death awaits. Believe you me, the tradition knows how to cleanse itself (of the filth).
Just to clarify, are you this cousin of Gurnam Singh who lives in the US?
For a start, have your comments vetted by your children before you post them.
Deepa Singh said:
who isnt your relationship soured with? you even soured off your grand uncles!
Yes, indeed. You seem to know quite a few things but only a version of the facts. I was unhappy with the way the recordings were made and a part of my family, connected with the project, was not wanting to do the way I was requesting my younger granduncle. They had this chalta-hai approach whereas I was saying that ‘this’ documentation may perhaps be the only chance to leave behind an authentic example. That was indeed the last chance and the documentation was not done to the best of the possibilities. Talk of the relationship at the end. Every dynamic relationship has its ups and downs especially when the elders allow for debates and deliberations to happen. It is sign of strength and not weakness. They taught us about that which is authentic and we wanted the best possible example for the coming generations.
I was against five or more compositions that were being recorded each day of the recording. There was hardly any rehearsal and the reason why pakhawaj was not being used as much as it should have been was because it would have taken longer to get the project done. I wanted my granduncle to take time off from active singing so his voice could be at his best, and so on. That is why many people in the family were iffy about my involvement and I was somehow sidelined for the recordings done at the later stages. The relationship was quickly back at its best or even better but you wouldn’t know that would you? You know some but you do not know enough..!
Deepa Singh said:
teri ta mein california vich baithe ne bund paar ti, I dread to think what would happen if I came to Sri Amritsar Sahib. Je tu aapni maa da dudh peeta, then publish your work nahi ta chup chaap aapna waheguru waheguru kar, te ardas kar ke tere hankar te parmesar ankush lagave
You have done nothing but shown how foul mouthed and stupid even Sikhs can be. There may only a small percentage of cultured people left around.
Look for the Sikh Formations referred journal by Routledge perhaps your eyes will open.
You are welcome to inform me when you come to India next and we will stage it as stated earlier to you…
Deepa Singh said:
on that note i bid farewell beccause i feel sorry for you, boht bzti hoyee teri boht paani pilaya…
sat sri akaal ji
Deepa Singh said:
pehla bob van der linden nu jawab de la, another fine article dealing your ass on a plate
Look for the earlier issue in which “What Is Kirtan” is carried and to which Bob has responded to in this edition.
Of course, the next issue will carry my response to Bob’s assumptions.
Karnal Singh said:
Deepa singh u bledy (!@#$%^&), how u dare talk 22 baldeep singh like dat? Vat iz ur problem (!@#$%^&*&)? Baldeep 22g wil (!@#$ !@ !@#$%^), he is good kirtan, u dumb shit!
Come to Chandigarh nd I wil see u (!@#$%^&^)!!
(Comment has been edited for its abusive content. ANAD Team)